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TPOVs @F-L-O-W
Subject/Object Relations

I want to move from general to
specific, to perhaps abstract, the ideas that I want to focus
on when I discuss Subject/Object Relations in FLOW
Applications.  You can see this can get pretty complex very
fast.  But I want to introduce you to this, and for those
already introduced, reacquaint you with work that is largely
popularized by Kegan, in his book The EVOLVING SELF, and IN
OVER OUR HEADS, as well as others.

William Perry needs to get most of
the credit for what Kegan, has of course, renamed and made his
own, just for the record.

The following comes directly from
the Wiki on Kegan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan

In The Evolving Self, Kegan
presents a model of psychological development consisting of
six "equilibrium stages": the incorporative stage, the
impulsive stage, the imperial stage, the

interpersonal
stage, the institutional stage, and the
inter-individual stage.  The

object
of each stage is the subject of the preceding
stage.

The subject of the incorporative
stage is

reflexes
, and it has no object.  The subjects of the

impulsive
stage are the individual’s impulses and

perceptions
, and its objects are the reflexes.  The
subject of the imperial stage is the individual’s needs,
interests, and

desires
.  Its objects are the individual’s impulses
and perceptions. 

The subject of the interpersonal
stage is interpersonal

relationships
and mutuality.  Its objects are the
individual’s needs, interests, and desires.  The subjects
of the institutional stage are the individual’s

authorship
,

identity
, and

ideology
.  Its objects are interpersonal relationships and
mutuality. 

The subject of the inter-individual
stage is "the interpenetrability of self-systems".  Its
objects are the individual’s authorship, identity, and
ideology.

Stage 0: Incorporative stage

  • Subject: reflexes
  • Object: nothing

Stage 1: Impulsive stage

  • Subject: impulses,
    perceptions
  • Object: reflexes

Stage 2: Imperial stage

  • Subject: needs,
    interests, desires
  • Object: impulses,
    perceptions

Stage 3: Interpersonal stage

  • Subject: interpersonal
    relationships, mutuality
  • Object: needs,
    interests, desires

Stage 4: Institutional stage

  • Subject: authorship,
    identity, ideology
  • Object: interpersonal
    relationships, mutuality

Stage 5: Inter-individual stage

  • Subject: "the
    interpenetrability of self-systems"
  • Object: authorship,
    identity, ideology

In the work I’m doing with
development, I like to use the idea of subject-object
relations to describe what might be happening in terms of
meaning-making and the sense we can make from the making of
meaning through the use of subject/object relations.

I’m less concerned with the level
that the person appears to be at, but how they are moving
among levels, whether or not the density of their memes is
flexible enough that they are not bounded by narrow levels of
S/O Relations, but can take perspectives on their
perspectives, even if it’s fairly simple.

This ability to take a perspective
on a perspective shows that while we are all subject to things
in many object domains, we can "mechanically" fish ourselves
out of the subjective soup from time to time and formulate an
object experience or perspective.

This is particularly important when
we are starting to flex through transitions of these
equilibrium states noted by developmentalists.  While we
are dissipative structures as living
systems — organizationally closed and energetically open — how
open, and how closed is key to note as we move to discover and
disclose ourselves in the acceptance process.

Helpful Hint:
What we are subject to, and are
being had by, is different than what we hold as object, and
can form a relationship with, including our own inbornness,
something that we are almost always 100% subject too  However,
in the process of realizing that, we can begin to objectify
this process.  This is key to living consciously, or at
least maturing in our lives.

Action Step: 
The biggest leverage point, IMHO,
is how subject we are to our inbornness, and how over time,
objectifying that, actually leads us back to ourselves and the
happiness program already designed into our inbornness, that
often we reject, because it doesn’t fit the cultural
stereotypes that we often are compelled, enrolled, or
manipulated to subject ourselves too.  Can you notice?

If you have any comments, questions, suggestions, or
need some additional help, please use the form below to
submit them.  Someone will get back to you within
48 hours.  Or if you prefer, at the bottom of this
page leave your comment and someone will get back to
you.

[contact-form-7 id=”17″ title=”General form”]

We hope you pick up valuable insights, ideas, and
tools during this process, which you can use for your own development as
well as your work and leadership with others.

You, Me, and We @F-L-O-W

Mike R. Jay is a developmentalist utilizing
consulting, coaching, mentoring and advising as methods to offer
developmental scaffolding for aspiring leaders who are interested in
being, doing, having, becoming, and contributing… to helping people
have lives.

Mike R. Jay
Leadership University


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LeadU presents Subject/Object Relations















LeaderW@RE

TPOVs @F-L-O-W
Subject/Object Relations

I want to move from general to
specific, to perhaps abstract, the ideas that I want to focus
on when I discuss Subject/Object Relations in FLOW
Applications.  You can see this can get pretty complex very
fast.  But I want to introduce you to this, and for those
already introduced, reacquaint you with work that is largely
popularized by Kegan, in his book The EVOLVING SELF, and IN
OVER OUR HEADS, as well as others.

William Perry needs to get most of
the credit for what Kegan, has of course, renamed and made his
own, just for the record.

The following comes directly from
the Wiki on Kegan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan

In The Evolving Self, Kegan
presents a model of psychological development consisting of
six "equilibrium stages": the incorporative stage, the
impulsive stage, the imperial stage, the

interpersonal
stage, the institutional stage, and the
inter-individual stage.  The

object
of each stage is the subject of the preceding
stage.

The subject of the incorporative
stage is

reflexes
, and it has no object.  The subjects of the

impulsive
stage are the individual’s impulses and

perceptions
, and its objects are the reflexes.  The
subject of the imperial stage is the individual’s needs,
interests, and

desires
.  Its objects are the individual’s impulses
and perceptions. 

The subject of the interpersonal
stage is interpersonal

relationships
and mutuality.  Its objects are the
individual’s needs, interests, and desires.  The subjects
of the institutional stage are the individual’s

authorship
,

identity
, and

ideology
.  Its objects are interpersonal relationships and
mutuality. 

The subject of the inter-individual
stage is "the interpenetrability of self-systems".  Its
objects are the individual’s authorship, identity, and
ideology.

Stage 0: Incorporative stage

  • Subject: reflexes
  • Object: nothing

Stage 1: Impulsive stage

  • Subject: impulses,
    perceptions
  • Object: reflexes

Stage 2: Imperial stage

  • Subject: needs,
    interests, desires
  • Object: impulses,
    perceptions

Stage 3: Interpersonal stage

  • Subject: interpersonal
    relationships, mutuality
  • Object: needs,
    interests, desires

Stage 4: Institutional stage

  • Subject: authorship,
    identity, ideology
  • Object: interpersonal
    relationships, mutuality

Stage 5: Inter-individual stage

  • Subject: "the
    interpenetrability of self-systems"
  • Object: authorship,
    identity, ideology

In the work I’m doing with
development, I like to use the idea of subject-object
relations to describe what might be happening in terms of
meaning-making and the sense we can make from the making of
meaning through the use of subject/object relations.

I’m less concerned with the level
that the person appears to be at, but how they are moving
among levels, whether or not the density of their memes is
flexible enough that they are not bounded by narrow levels of
S/O Relations, but can take perspectives on their
perspectives, even if it’s fairly simple.

This ability to take a perspective
on a perspective shows that while we are all subject to things
in many object domains, we can "mechanically" fish ourselves
out of the subjective soup from time to time and formulate an
object experience or perspective.

This is particularly important when
we are starting to flex through transitions of these
equilibrium states noted by developmentalists.  While we
are dissipative structures as living
systems–organizationally closed and energetically open–how
open, and how closed is key to note as we move to discover and
disclose ourselves in the acceptance process.

Helpful Hint:
What we are subject to, and are
being had by, is different than what we hold as object, and
can form a relationship with, including our own inbornness,
something that we are almost always 100% subject too  However,
in the process of realizing that, we can begin to objectify
this process.  This is key to living consciously, or at
least maturing in our lives.

Action Step: 
The biggest leverage point, IMHO,
is how subject we are to our inbornness, and how over time,
objectifying that, actually leads us back to ourselves and the
happiness program already designed into our inbornness, that
often we reject, because it doesn’t fit the cultural
stereotypes that we often are compelled, enrolled, or
manipulated to subject ourselves too.  Can you notice?

If you have any comments, questions, suggestions, or
need some additional help, please use the form below to
submit them.  Someone will get back to you within
48 hours.  Or if you prefer, at the bottom of this
page leave your comment and someone will get back to
you.

[contact-form-7 id=”17″ title=”General form”]

We hope you pick up valuable insights, ideas, and
tools during this process, which you can use for your own development as
well as your work and leadership with others.

You, Me, and We @F-L-O-W

Mike R. Jay is a developmentalist utilizing
consulting, coaching, mentoring and advising as methods to offer
developmental scaffolding for aspiring leaders who are interested in
being, doing, having, becoming, and contributing… to helping people
have lives.

Mike R. Jay
Leadership University


© Generati

Learn how you may become a member of our Inner Circle and
receive the cutting edge on the most current thinking in Leader Development. 
Visit

Inner Circle Membership
.