TPOVs @F-L-O-W
Subject/Object Relations
					  I want to move from general to 
				  specific, to perhaps abstract, the ideas that I want to focus 
				  on when I discuss Subject/Object Relations in FLOW 
				  Applications.  You can see this can get pretty complex very 
				  fast.  But I want to introduce you to this, and for those 
				  already introduced, reacquaint you with work that is largely 
				  popularized by Kegan, in his book The EVOLVING SELF, and IN 
				  OVER OUR HEADS, as well as others.
				  William Perry needs to get most of 
				  the credit for what Kegan, has of course, renamed and made his 
				  own, just for the record.
				  The following comes directly from 
				  the Wiki on Kegan:
				  
				  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan
				  In The Evolving Self, Kegan 
				  presents a model of psychological development consisting of 
				  six "equilibrium stages": the incorporative stage, the 
				  impulsive stage, the imperial stage, the
				  
				  interpersonal stage, the institutional stage, and the 
				  inter-individual stage.  The
				  
				  object of each stage is the subject of the preceding 
				  stage.
				  The subject of the incorporative 
				  stage is
				  
				  reflexes, and it has no object.  The subjects of the
				  
				  impulsive stage are the individual’s impulses and
				  
				  perceptions, and its objects are the reflexes.  The 
				  subject of the imperial stage is the individual’s needs, 
				  interests, and
				  
				  desires.  Its objects are the individual’s impulses 
				  and perceptions.  
The subject of the interpersonal 
				  stage is interpersonal
				  
				  relationships and mutuality.  Its objects are the 
				  individual’s needs, interests, and desires.  The subjects 
				  of the institutional stage are the individual’s
				  
				  authorship,
				  
				  identity, and
				  
				  ideology.  Its objects are interpersonal relationships and 
				  mutuality.  
				  The subject of the inter-individual 
				  stage is "the interpenetrability of self-systems".  Its 
				  objects are the individual’s authorship, identity, and 
				  ideology.
				  
- Subject: reflexes
- Object: nothing
- Subject: impulses, perceptions
- Object: reflexes
- Subject: needs, interests, desires
- Object: impulses, perceptions
- Subject: interpersonal relationships, mutuality
- Object: needs, interests, desires
- Subject: authorship, identity, ideology
- Object: interpersonal relationships, mutuality
- Subject: "the interpenetrability of self-systems"
- Object: authorship, identity, ideology
In the work I’m doing with 
				  development, I like to use the idea of subject-object 
				  relations to describe what might be happening in terms of 
				  meaning-making and the sense we can make from the making of 
				  meaning through the use of subject/object relations.
				  I’m less concerned with the level 
				  that the person appears to be at, but how they are moving 
				  among levels, whether or not the density of their memes is 
				  flexible enough that they are not bounded by narrow levels of 
				  S/O Relations, but can take perspectives on their 
				  perspectives, even if it’s fairly simple.
				  This ability to take a perspective 
				  on a perspective shows that while we are all subject to things 
				  in many object domains, we can "mechanically" fish ourselves 
				  out of the subjective soup from time to time and formulate an 
				  object experience or perspective.
				  This is particularly important when 
				  we are starting to flex through transitions of these 
				  equilibrium states noted by developmentalists.  While we 
				  are dissipative structures as living 
				  systems — organizationally closed and energetically open — how 
				  open, and how closed is key to note as we move to discover and 
				  disclose ourselves in the acceptance process.
				  
				  				  Helpful Hint:
				 What we are subject to, and are 
				  being had by, is different than what we hold as object, and 
				  can form a relationship with, including our own inbornness, 
				  something that we are almost always 100% subject too  However, 
				  in the process of realizing that, we can begin to objectify 
				  this process.  This is key to living consciously, or at 
				  least maturing in our lives.
			 
				  Action Step: 
				 The biggest leverage point, IMHO, 
				  is how subject we are to our inbornness, and how over time, 
				  objectifying that, actually leads us back to ourselves and the 
				  happiness program already designed into our inbornness, that 
				  often we reject, because it doesn’t fit the cultural 
				  stereotypes that we often are compelled, enrolled, or 
				  manipulated to subject ourselves too.  Can you notice?
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		tools during this process, which you can use for your own development as 
		well as your work and leadership with others.
			
				  
			
				  
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TPOVs @F-L-O-W
Subject/Object Relations
					  I want to move from general to 
				  specific, to perhaps abstract, the ideas that I want to focus 
				  on when I discuss Subject/Object Relations in FLOW 
				  Applications.  You can see this can get pretty complex very 
				  fast.  But I want to introduce you to this, and for those 
				  already introduced, reacquaint you with work that is largely 
				  popularized by Kegan, in his book The EVOLVING SELF, and IN 
				  OVER OUR HEADS, as well as others.
				  William Perry needs to get most of 
				  the credit for what Kegan, has of course, renamed and made his 
				  own, just for the record.
				  The following comes directly from 
				  the Wiki on Kegan:
				  
				  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan
				  In The Evolving Self, Kegan 
				  presents a model of psychological development consisting of 
				  six "equilibrium stages": the incorporative stage, the 
				  impulsive stage, the imperial stage, the
				  
				  interpersonal stage, the institutional stage, and the 
				  inter-individual stage.  The
				  
				  object of each stage is the subject of the preceding 
				  stage.
				  The subject of the incorporative 
				  stage is
				  
				  reflexes, and it has no object.  The subjects of the
				  
				  impulsive stage are the individual’s impulses and
				  
				  perceptions, and its objects are the reflexes.  The 
				  subject of the imperial stage is the individual’s needs, 
				  interests, and
				  
				  desires.  Its objects are the individual’s impulses 
				  and perceptions.  
The subject of the interpersonal 
				  stage is interpersonal
				  
				  relationships and mutuality.  Its objects are the 
				  individual’s needs, interests, and desires.  The subjects 
				  of the institutional stage are the individual’s
				  
				  authorship,
				  
				  identity, and
				  
				  ideology.  Its objects are interpersonal relationships and 
				  mutuality.  
				  The subject of the inter-individual 
				  stage is "the interpenetrability of self-systems".  Its 
				  objects are the individual’s authorship, identity, and 
				  ideology.
				  
- Subject: reflexes
- Object: nothing
- Subject: impulses, perceptions
- Object: reflexes
- Subject: needs, interests, desires
- Object: impulses, perceptions
- Subject: interpersonal relationships, mutuality
- Object: needs, interests, desires
- Subject: authorship, identity, ideology
- Object: interpersonal relationships, mutuality
- Subject: "the interpenetrability of self-systems"
- Object: authorship, identity, ideology
In the work I’m doing with 
				  development, I like to use the idea of subject-object 
				  relations to describe what might be happening in terms of 
				  meaning-making and the sense we can make from the making of 
				  meaning through the use of subject/object relations.
				  I’m less concerned with the level 
				  that the person appears to be at, but how they are moving 
				  among levels, whether or not the density of their memes is 
				  flexible enough that they are not bounded by narrow levels of 
				  S/O Relations, but can take perspectives on their 
				  perspectives, even if it’s fairly simple.
				  This ability to take a perspective 
				  on a perspective shows that while we are all subject to things 
				  in many object domains, we can "mechanically" fish ourselves 
				  out of the subjective soup from time to time and formulate an 
				  object experience or perspective.
				  This is particularly important when 
				  we are starting to flex through transitions of these 
				  equilibrium states noted by developmentalists.  While we 
				  are dissipative structures as living 
				  systems–organizationally closed and energetically open–how 
				  open, and how closed is key to note as we move to discover and 
				  disclose ourselves in the acceptance process.
				  
				  				  Helpful Hint:
				 What we are subject to, and are 
				  being had by, is different than what we hold as object, and 
				  can form a relationship with, including our own inbornness, 
				  something that we are almost always 100% subject too  However, 
				  in the process of realizing that, we can begin to objectify 
				  this process.  This is key to living consciously, or at 
				  least maturing in our lives.
			 
				  Action Step: 
				 The biggest leverage point, IMHO, 
				  is how subject we are to our inbornness, and how over time, 
				  objectifying that, actually leads us back to ourselves and the 
				  happiness program already designed into our inbornness, that 
				  often we reject, because it doesn’t fit the cultural 
				  stereotypes that we often are compelled, enrolled, or 
				  manipulated to subject ourselves too.  Can you notice?
If you have any comments, questions, suggestions, or need some additional help, please use the form below to submit them. Someone will get back to you within 48 hours. Or if you prefer, at the bottom of this page leave your comment and someone will get back to you.

We hope you pick up valuable insights, ideas, and 
		tools during this process, which you can use for your own development as 
		well as your work and leadership with others.
			
				  
			
				  
				  	  You, Me, and We @F-L-O-W
Mike R. Jay is a developmentalist utilizing consulting, coaching, mentoring and advising as methods to offer developmental scaffolding for aspiring leaders who are interested in being, doing, having, becoming, and contributing… to helping people have lives.
 
		

© Generati
Learn how you may become a member of our Inner Circle and receive the cutting edge on the most current thinking in Leader Development. Visit Inner Circle Membership.
