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Is Deeper Better?

 

Recently, one of our inner circle members asked me about the "strategy of the Obama administration to "bomb" ISiS...

Over the years, I've studied Systems Dynamics (developed at MIT from "Industrial Dynamics") by Jay Forrester, who later guided the "Italian Job" (hehe) in 1972s "Limits to Growth."

You can get a very short/fast blurb on Systems Dynamics here:
http://www.flow.ph/2014/SD/references/executive/

The question I want to explore in this TPOV is related to how "deep" you make an intervention.

By now, you have probably realized that everything is related to a "hierarchy of complexity". In other words, some things are more complex than others and "levels" are emergent from the way in which complexity hierarchies (in general) are constructed.

Unfortunately I'm not versed enough in SD software to create a quick systems diagram for you, but here's an arrow diagram to illustrate what I think might be context for the "OBAMA question" above.

I don't know if they think this way, but I need context for the TPOV (bear with me and give me the benefit of the doubt, regardless of your political leanings.)

If ISIS grows-->it will be bad for the world-->bad for the USA. (Bomb ISIS)

That's basically what I think is an oversimplified way of building some context to explain their "intervention--> bomb ISIS.

Of course, it's more complex, but here's what I think about "IS DEEPER BETTER?"

As all of us bound reality, we make assumptions about that reality in its bounded form--it's natural and "right".

The question begged here by our inner circle member needs to be answered with some degree of caution because we can NEVER get to the bottom of things (more than likely), although we can get pretty deeper into the causal field, as most realize.

My answer then, to the question...
Is deeper better?

Do (practically) we need to get on the ground with those people?

George H.W. Bush felt it was a mistake.

Later came "911" and George W. Bush persuaded everyone that we needed to be on the ground.

Later came Obama and said, being on the ground is a mistake.

NOW, Obama is back to "intervention" from the air.

Air, land, sea? Is deeper better?

The reason that this is such an important TPOV, is that I believe that it is important to go as deep as you can, even though you may not be able to get all the way down to the basic nature of systems.

I believe if we had, or could find, build or simulate these conditions (and I don't know why they are not, hmm), I believe that by NOT going deep enough, you actually make things worse...and that was the basis of my rant on audio: [https://s3.amazonaws.com/2014-roles/140911-Mike-on-World-Affairs.mp3).

Helpful Hint: There is a tendency with leaders (because they don't understand postmodern conditions) in postmodern conditions (a mismatch between the leader's capability and the requirements in those conditions) to make knee jerk "symptomatic decisions." This is not a bad leader, it is the reflection of a mismatch between capability and requirements! The tendency to quiet, or to anticipate the emergence of noise causes leadership tension, which is normally enough to cause a leader in this kind of mismatch to pull a lever, rather than be "seen" as doing nothing...when precisely that is what the leader should be, do, have, become and contribute @F-L-O-W.

Action Step: When tension arises, the key linchpin (IMHO) is to assess complexity first! If complexity is beyond the capability of those in place to grok it, then doing nothing while exploring perspectives is the best thing to do.

NOW, to answer the question and to apply the TPOV:

In our vigniette with ISIS, ISIS is not going anywhere, the key is not to bomb ISIS, but to eliminate as many of their options as possible, and it's not through bombing--at best, a short term measure--which in all actuality will do ONE thing we shouldn't do!

And that is to "motivate" others to join the cause.

The way psychology works is to unite people against bully's (obviously ISIS has chosen to violate this)...however, to do the same thing, to "discriminately" bomb people where innocent people will continue to be killed, either by ISIS or the bombing, what actually have we accomplished, other than to "quiet" those who rail about the injustice from their point of view.

NOW, in a political system, it really matters who is making noise and this is the problem with a political system (that is for another place and time of exploring "IS DEEPER BETTER?" towards Is deeper, deep enough?)

Clearly, being able to raise a coalition of the faithful to go back on the ground is impossible, especially in light of the Cul de sac Obama created in his election promises. As I noted in the audio, as cynical as it might sound, this is a "wag the dog" political decision that like the "W" decisions, will come back to haunt us.

The question remains...IS DEEPER BETTER?

This question is a difficult one to answer for any leader who understands there almost is no bottom!

EVENTUALLY, non-intervention has it's own emergent effect, the question remains for me, is the future value (negative) of this effect worth the NPV of the decision now?

The ONLY way to answer this is to map the strategy to the bottom and OBAMA et al, nor have the political opposites mapped this to the bottom.

During a two year period in the late 90s, I looked at the memetic mapping of Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity, Hindu, and Islam. All of those map to the "cool" side of the hot-cold pendulum range, except one: Islam.

Islam is a hot religion, in that it has a founding tenet of convert or die. There is no middle ground in the theology, although most will say there is in moderate translations.

With ISIS, we now face the bottom.

If you are NOT WILLING TO GO TO THE BOTTOM, then almost any intervention is not going to produce the benefits desired in the strategy, in this case, to remove ISIS.

While I've oversimplified the process of getting to the bottom of causal triggers, you can see that all Obama, et al have done is pacify (ironically) those elements that are already not operating "deep" enough.

The question now, might be, what should we do then, if bombing is just going to make things worse?

[In case, you don't think things have been made worse by the interventions thus far, just look at the proliferation of radicalism in Islam and you will find now, instead of a network in the Middle East, radical, fundamental Islam is taking hold in every country in the world! Killing Osama by Obama was just one of these failed strategies that have led to the proliferation of "many Osama clones" around the world.]

While this now becomes a political and religious argument, it also has hidden in its agenda an economic one, and beyond that, a paradigmatic one, which is MUCH more complex than I have time to write, but here's a hint: "Is progress better?" Try to dig to the bottom of that one and you will realize that the war that is being setup is a war started by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad in 622, the date the Islamic calendar began.

The basic assumption?
Muhammad started preaching these revelations publicly, proclaiming that "God is One", that complete "surrender" (lit. islām) to Him is the only way (dīn)[n 3] acceptable to God

While one can argue about the "rightness" of any of these assumptions, until you begin with these assumptions--irrational as they might be, you are not going deep enough.

There is no part of this doctrine that says, "it's up to you to decide."

It has already been decided and therefore this "movement" can NOT be stopped rationally, and therefore I believe every intervention you make, the risk of making it worse, rather than better is very high.

It's been some time since I read ENEMIES OF CIVILIZATION by Harris, but his thesis was, "they who are the most ruthless are an enemy to civilization" to paraphrase, and only when you are as ruthless as "they are" can you prevail.

Hopefully (pun intended) you can see the metasystem here, and that is:

Until you are willing to go deep enough, then intervention has a high risk of making the situation you are trying to remedy-->WORSE, bringing it back again (as is clearly in evidence now with ISIS) more virulent. This same underlying mechanism is destroying part of civilization today, even without people thinking it's that bad, and that is our battle with bacteria.

Superficial solutions are making things worse in the world of bacterial disease, soon to be as ruthless as it can be in leading to population threats in many more countries than previously thought.

The same superficial solution that "bombing ISIS" provides leads me to believe that we are NOT NEARLY DEEP ENOUGH, which means things in a virulent world (values or bacteria) are made worse, but not incremental worsening, exponential, non-linear worse.

 

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